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conversational hypnosis

In a traditional approach to hypnosis, there is an expectation of some "induction", "deepening" and then comes the "hypnosis".

When we start from the assumption that hypnosis is merely an extension of the common everyday trance, as Erickson called it, we can observe the way anyone who becomes focused and absorbed in any experience is demonstrating the ingredients of a hypnotic experience.

This allows us, in an ordinary conversation, to become more sensitive in our observations and notice these subtle, or sometimes not so subtle, changes, and then without the need for any sort of formal process, we can begin to encourage the focus, the absorption, comment on observable changes and define the experience as hypnosis - or - we can simply continue without needing to mention the "h" word.

This can create a naturalistic experience, an ordinary experience, and create all the benefits of "hypnosis" without requiring anything special.

When we observe a shift in a client's experience where they become more focused and absorbed, we can shift our mood towards our self experience of trance, perhaps soften our voice, slow our speaking, maybe slow our own breathing and blinking to create a mood for the client to "catch".

I've included an audio recording of such an experience, and I have overacted to make the point more obvious.

I invite you to play with this, and leave a comment about what you discovered.

 

Here's an example where an 11 year old boy was brought by his mother because of his violent outbursts at school where he was kicking rubbish bins and threatened a teacher with a knife.

I picked up [eventually] on the mother's comment that people were "pushing his buttons" and this led to a conversation about his "bionical" - a toy I'd never heard of, but soon became familiar with as the boy taught me. 

I'm not sure which of us was more focused and absorbed, but there was no formal trance process and yet all...

29 comments

 

Hi rob.. amusing .. i imagine all turned out for the better.. well done cheers

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I think there is an experience of everyday trance sometimes when  meeting a client. There is more focus, intensity,  something is different but it is difficult to say what it is. 

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Rob McNeilly
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It's difficult to say what it is, but it's easy to appreciate the benefits. 

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Among all the other wonderful aspects of your approach here Rob, your mirroring of Chris' leg movement is delightful (and no doubt incredibly effective). Thank you for sharing this. 

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yes I noticed it too, the way Rob was sitting and moving his legs just as Chris.

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Rob McNeilly
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Good observation, Kristie. Observing is the beginning of everything.

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WOW!  I have been a hypnotist for over 20 years, and have been becoming a solution focused brief therapist (Completing an MA in Counseling at Liberty University Online in August '21).  I really enjoyed the whole way you related to Chris, and took him deeply into his imagination using Harry Potter and the Bionicle (sp?).  The whole way you took him through the process was great fun to watch and hearing Chris grab hold of the ideas was just delightful.  I'm in hospital as I write this, so I have more time to fill than usual, and am finally getting to run through the rest of these very helpful videos.  E-Coli is a tough thing to get rid of, and it keeps coming back.  

Thank you so much for putting the real session into the mix.  It is so instructive to see you masterfully work with a client, especially. child.  You related as well to that boy as anyone could have asked.  I can't tell how long ago it was, but the further 10 years or so of life you have experienced wouldn't diminish that ability to adapt.  

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Rob McNeilly
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Thanks Lee. I'm glad that you found this useful. I have found that kids are much easier than adults - more creative, in touch with their imagination, and willing to play. You might be interested to see another session I had with an 11 yo girl with a dog phobia. That was fun also. It's in an eBook - https://us.simplerousercontent.net/uploads/asset/file/4071790/dog-phobia-pages-.pdf 

Get well soon.

Rob

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Thank you so much, Rob. I would also like to know of what you have done with one pressing concern, sleepwalking, and an ongoing issue, add/adhd.

I should let you know thT I have been a Hypnotist/hypnotherapist for about 20 years, and am completing an MA in counseling through Liberty University Online this August. My current professo/faculty internship dupervisor is favorably disposed toward SFBT and hypnosis.

Lee Pelletier

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Rob McNeilly
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Lee, I have found that instead of trying to find a method for helping someone with a problem, sleepwalking, ADD, ADHD, it's more useful to explore with each individual just what their experience is - how come this is a problem? What's missing for them that would be useful, what do they want? Questions like these can create a respectfully tailored approach. 

Erickson said that he usually sent alcoholics to AA, but one man he sent to the Phoenix Botanical Gardens to marvel at the ability of a cactus plant to go for years without a drink. He tole a sleepwalker to buy some tacks and to be very aware of sprinkling them beside his bed before he went to sleep.

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I have had extensive experience with ADHD ADD and Autism using hypnosis. Asking what they like to do has been the most useful thing I’ve ever offered. 

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Hi Rob, really appreciated this video, the mirroring of body language, mirroring verbal language and the development of story using metaphors resulted in the communications between the young man and yourself was relaxed,.                          He opened up to you, he was trusting.

With your skill at exploring how the young man perceived his behaviors and how he controlled them, you changed them from confrontational into a fun situation that incorporated the Mum. 

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Rob McNeilly
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Hi Doug, when we observe something, we can't help but learn something, not through understanding but by osmosis. I'm glad this conversation contributed to your learning. "Monkey see; monkey do". 

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Hi Rob,

I am thinking of changing my supervision. Could you confirm if you are available and fees. Also how flexible are you with appointment times. Will I be dealing with your directly in regards to making appointment times etc.

Thanks

Eugenie Pepper
Key Hypnotherapy
tel. 04 1235 2429

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Rob McNeilly
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Hi Eugenie, 

I am available, my fee is $150 for about an hour, Tuesdays - Fridays between 11.30am and 3pm unless I have other online commitments.

Thanks for your enquiry, and you will be dealing directly with me.

Rob

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Really enjoyed this! thanks Rob

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Rob McNeilly
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Thanks Georgina

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Yes!  Very enjoyable!

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Just wow as to how you dealt with it, as you were talking I was getting nervous as to what I would say and do next for him to get focused and absorbed, but I'm glad I'm learning this method from you and hopefully practice will add the confidence and the use of the right words at the right time. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge with us.

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Rob McNeilly
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Farah, I took me nearly 50 years to learn what I've learnt. You don't have to take that long. to discover that you already know more than you realise, and by listening and being expectant, you can find your own approach and be confident in each client's ability to connect with latent resources.

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Brilliant. Thank you for sharing. I love the way you used play and eventually settled on the Chris like bionical. Lots more I could comment on, particularly at the moment the future pacing. 

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Rob McNeilly
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Some people might think thios was psychotic - seeing an illusion, but it was useful. Glad you could observe this, Stephen. Have some fun playing with this idea.


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Appreciated tehe way you went with the short responses eg"nothing much" and by  the end and developed rapport to the point he tapped your arm. Then your inclusion of Mum. So skilful . Do you have any videos of working with autism please?

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Rob McNeilly
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I'm glad that you were able to appreciate what you observed. It's such a pleasure to learn, or be reminded. For me, we are never working with a disorder like "autism" - we are always having a conversation with a unique individual to assist them to remember or learn an experience that will help them.

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To. That is another something it seems I still need learn over and over. Thank you

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Rob McNeilly
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Me too. Welcome to the club of us human beings.

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Wow that was so cool...wasnt sure if I wanted to work with kids but I LOVE what you did with this boy...and I feel more empowered to just do this! I love what you did and how you helped him and his Mum. Thankyou Rob...very helpful

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Rob McNeilly
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Kids are easy, Michelle. They haven't learnt to be proper like us adults and a re so flexible with their experiences - allowing for easy learning.

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Such a great learning experience for me Rob.  Loved the utilisation. Thank you...

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